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Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:03 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:57 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:54 pm Thats why i like Rouge Trader. People actually judge you for not killing everything that breathes. How dare you not listen to our lord and Saviour the Emperor of mankind??

Bitch i work for the baddies here, i am a Chaos simp!!!

Is Rogue Trader a good introduction into Warhammer? I've always wanted to get into 40k Warhammer but I have no idea where I'd start.

I think its not bad, as they do explain a lot of things, and you dont have to be an expert. However i think that it might be a bit to broad of an entery as there are many things mentioned inside (again if you like to have a lot of information upfront its great) but if you prefer a bit slower approach i would actually reccomend the first Space Marine game, as its a bit older (and quite often on sale on Steam or if you Pirate free always [i dont judge RRRRRRR fellow pirate}) and its a bit more grounded as it shows you only a bit of the world.

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:09 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:03 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:57 pm

Is Rogue Trader a good introduction into Warhammer? I've always wanted to get into 40k Warhammer but I have no idea where I'd start.

I think its not bad, as they do explain a lot of things, and you dont have to be an expert. However i think that it might be a bit to broad of an entery as there are many things mentioned inside (again if you like to have a lot of information upfront its great) but if you prefer a bit slower approach i would actually reccomend the first Space Marine game, as its a bit older (and quite often on sale on Steam or if you Pirate free always [i dont judge RRRRRRR fellow pirate}) and its a bit more grounded as it shows you only a bit of the world.

I didn't like the combat I saw within that game. Would Total War be better? It's daunting to pick up.

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:10 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:09 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:03 pm

I think its not bad, as they do explain a lot of things, and you dont have to be an expert. However i think that it might be a bit to broad of an entery as there are many things mentioned inside (again if you like to have a lot of information upfront its great) but if you prefer a bit slower approach i would actually reccomend the first Space Marine game, as its a bit older (and quite often on sale on Steam or if you Pirate free always [i dont judge RRRRRRR fellow pirate}) and its a bit more grounded as it shows you only a bit of the world.

I didn't like the combat I saw within that game. Would Total War be better? It's daunting to pick up.

Keep in mind that Total War WH is Warhammer fantasy, and Space Marine is 40k. Those are two iterations of WH, with many similarities, but they are two different versions of the verse

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:12 pm

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:10 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:09 pm
I didn't like the combat I saw within that game. Would Total War be better? It's daunting to pick up.

Keep in mind that Total War WH is Warhammer fantasy, and Space Marine is 40k. Those are two iterations of WH, with many similarities, but they are two different versions of the verse

I am so confused. They're two different timelines from what I'm taking here?

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:12 pm

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:10 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:09 pm
I didn't like the combat I saw within that game. Would Total War be better? It's daunting to pick up.

Keep in mind that Total War WH is Warhammer fantasy, and Space Marine is 40k. Those are two iterations of WH, with many similarities, but they are two different versions of the verse

I am so confused. They're two different timelines from what I'm taking here?

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:29 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:12 pm

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:10 pm

Keep in mind that Total War WH is Warhammer fantasy, and Space Marine is 40k. Those are two iterations of WH, with many similarities, but they are two different versions of the verse

I am so confused. They're two different timelines from what I'm taking here?

These are tehnically two different settings now (back in the day it was believed that Fantasy was a prequel since they have certain things that are the same) just made by the same people so they carry the Warhammer name. Fantasy is medival setting while 40k is futuristic. 40k is much more darker and people inside of it take it as such while in Fantasy things are almost equally bad its just that it doesnt "feel" as bleak and grim as the 40k one. Both have a ton of interesting things so you can gloss over both of them and see which you like more. Personally i think 40k is better as it strikes me as Fantasy on steroids, since a lot of the things are simmilair however in 40k they are taken usually to the next level (almost like oh you thought this was bad oh wait till you hear about X, which can have some charm). I like to see the extent of things and i like that both of the worlds have a bit of their identity and you can find something to like about both of them

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:29 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:12 pm

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:10 pm

Keep in mind that Total War WH is Warhammer fantasy, and Space Marine is 40k. Those are two iterations of WH, with many similarities, but they are two different versions of the verse

I am so confused. They're two different timelines from what I'm taking here?

These are tehnically two different settings now (back in the day it was believed that Fantasy was a prequel since they have certain things that are the same) just made by the same people so they carry the Warhammer name. Fantasy is medival setting while 40k is futuristic. 40k is much more darker and people inside of it take it as such while in Fantasy things are almost equally bad its just that it doesnt "feel" as bleak and grim as the 40k one. Both have a ton of interesting things so you can gloss over both of them and see which you like more. Personally i think 40k is better as it strikes me as Fantasy on steroids, since a lot of the things are simmilair however in 40k they are taken usually to the next level (almost like oh you thought this was bad oh wait till you hear about X, which can have some charm). I like to see the extent of things and i like that both of the worlds have a bit of their identity and you can find something to like about both of them

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:31 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:29 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:12 pm I am so confused. They're two different timelines from what I'm taking here?

These are tehnically two different settings now (back in the day it was believed that Fantasy was a prequel since they have certain things that are the same) just made by the same people so they carry the Warhammer name. Fantasy is medival setting while 40k is futuristic. 40k is much more darker and people inside of it take it as such while in Fantasy things are almost equally bad its just that it doesnt "feel" as bleak and grim as the 40k one. Both have a ton of interesting things so you can gloss over both of them and see which you like more. Personally i think 40k is better as it strikes me as Fantasy on steroids, since a lot of the things are simmilair however in 40k they are taken usually to the next level (almost like oh you thought this was bad oh wait till you hear about X, which can have some charm). I like to see the extent of things and i like that both of the worlds have a bit of their identity and you can find something to like about both of them

Fantasy looks a little ridiculous compared to the seriousness of 40k

But 40k doesn't have skaven

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:31 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:29 pm

Annoging wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:12 pm
I am so confused. They're two different timelines from what I'm taking here?

These are tehnically two different settings now (back in the day it was believed that Fantasy was a prequel since they have certain things that are the same) just made by the same people so they carry the Warhammer name. Fantasy is medival setting while 40k is futuristic. 40k is much more darker and people inside of it take it as such while in Fantasy things are almost equally bad its just that it doesnt "feel" as bleak and grim as the 40k one. Both have a ton of interesting things so you can gloss over both of them and see which you like more. Personally i think 40k is better as it strikes me as Fantasy on steroids, since a lot of the things are simmilair however in 40k they are taken usually to the next level (almost like oh you thought this was bad oh wait till you hear about X, which can have some charm). I like to see the extent of things and i like that both of the worlds have a bit of their identity and you can find something to like about both of them

Fantasy looks a little ridiculous compared to the seriousness of 40k

But 40k doesn't have skaven

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:36 pm

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:31 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:29 pm

These are tehnically two different settings now (back in the day it was believed that Fantasy was a prequel since they have certain things that are the same) just made by the same people so they carry the Warhammer name. Fantasy is medival setting while 40k is futuristic. 40k is much more darker and people inside of it take it as such while in Fantasy things are almost equally bad its just that it doesnt "feel" as bleak and grim as the 40k one. Both have a ton of interesting things so you can gloss over both of them and see which you like more. Personally i think 40k is better as it strikes me as Fantasy on steroids, since a lot of the things are simmilair however in 40k they are taken usually to the next level (almost like oh you thought this was bad oh wait till you hear about X, which can have some charm). I like to see the extent of things and i like that both of the worlds have a bit of their identity and you can find something to like about both of them

Fantasy looks a little ridiculous compared to the seriousness of 40k

But 40k doesn't have skaven

BIGGEST SAD EVER.

Skaven are Fantasy only. I also really like the Wood elves from Fantasy and the Lizardmen but they are also fantasy only. I mean 40k has their own onlys but these are a pretty big loss if you ask me for its as these races are very good.

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:36 pm

Peril wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:31 pm

Yorveth wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:29 pm

These are tehnically two different settings now (back in the day it was believed that Fantasy was a prequel since they have certain things that are the same) just made by the same people so they carry the Warhammer name. Fantasy is medival setting while 40k is futuristic. 40k is much more darker and people inside of it take it as such while in Fantasy things are almost equally bad its just that it doesnt "feel" as bleak and grim as the 40k one. Both have a ton of interesting things so you can gloss over both of them and see which you like more. Personally i think 40k is better as it strikes me as Fantasy on steroids, since a lot of the things are simmilair however in 40k they are taken usually to the next level (almost like oh you thought this was bad oh wait till you hear about X, which can have some charm). I like to see the extent of things and i like that both of the worlds have a bit of their identity and you can find something to like about both of them

Fantasy looks a little ridiculous compared to the seriousness of 40k

But 40k doesn't have skaven

BIGGEST SAD EVER.

Skaven are Fantasy only. I also really like the Wood elves from Fantasy and the Lizardmen but they are also fantasy only. I mean 40k has their own onlys but these are a pretty big loss if you ask me for its as these races are very good.